Saint Joan of Arc (Jeanne la Pucelle): Difference between revisions

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<blockquote>Among the events which [the historian] expounds are some for which no rational explanation is forthcoming, and the conscientious historian stops short at that point.</blockquote>

It's a large concession, that, that some events from the life of Saint Joan of Arc have "no rational explanation," but, apparently, this "conscientious historian" must contain herself to "the facts" and stick to sorting them out for description while avoiding explanation, much less inference from those facts. It~~'s not only impossible, it~~'s historiographically ~~useless. For Joan, it seems, so it is. As Pernoud admits, if back~~-~~handedly, because Joan's motives, actions, and outcomes are so improbable, to attribute them to anything other than divine guidance makes no sense. But since divine guidance~~ is ~~"ahistorical," or merely an article of faith, Joan's motives don't matter historically~~.

It's a large concession, that, that some events from the life of Saint Joan of Arc have "no rational explanation," but, apparently, this "conscientious historian" must contain herself to "the facts" and stick to sorting them out for description while avoiding explanation, much less inference from those facts. It's historiographically unenlightening and theologically cowardly -- which is the point.

Pernoud thereby dismisses them altogether, falling back upon,<ref>Pernoud, Regine. Joan of Arc: By Herself and Her Witnesses (p. 388). Scarborough House. Kindle Edition.</ref>

For Joan, it seems, so it is. As Pernoud admits, if back-handedly, because Joan's motives, actions, and outcomes are so improbable, to attribute them to anything other than divine guidance makes no sense. But since divine guidance is "ahistorical," or merely an article of faith, Joan's motives don't matter historically. Pernoud thereby dismisses them altogether, falling back upon,<ref>Pernoud, Regine. Joan of Arc: By Herself and Her Witnesses (p. 388). Scarborough House. Kindle Edition.</ref>

<blockquote>The believer can no doubt be satisfied with Joan’s explanation; the unbeliever cannot.</blockquote>

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<blockquote>Either declare the tree good and its fruit is good, or declare the tree rotten and its fruit is rotten, for a tree is known by its fruit.</blockquote>

and which the Church employed ~~with Joan~~ explicitly when discerning Joan, following [https://bible.usccb.org/bible/1john/4?1 1 John 4:1]<ref>~~See also~~ Fraioli, p. 50.</ref>,

and which the Church at Poitiers on the first examination of Joan on behalf of the French King, employed explicitly when discerning Joan, following [https://bible.usccb.org/bible/1john/4?1 1 John 4:1]<ref>Fraioli uses the King James translation, "Try the spirits if they be of God." (p. 50). The Louis Segond translation reads, "n'ajoutez pas foi à tout esprit; mais éprouvez les esprits" ([https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1%20Jean%204&version=LSG 1 Jean 4:1]). The English-backed Trial of Condemnation at Rouen quoted Matthew 7:16, "" Ye shall know them by their fruits," in Article LXIII of her accusations.</ref>,

<blockquote>Beloved, do not trust every spirit but test the spirits to see whether they belong to God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world.</blockquote>

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 <blockquote>Among the events which [the historian] expounds are some for which no rational explanation is forthcoming, and the conscientious historian stops short at that point.</blockquote>
-It's a large concession, that, that some events from the life of Saint Joan of Arc have "no rational explanation," but, apparently, this "conscientious historian" must contain herself to "the facts" and stick to sorting them out for description while avoiding explanation, much less inference from those facts. It's not only impossible, it's historiographically useless. For Joan, it seems, so it is. As Pernoud admits, if back-handedly, because Joan's motives, actions, and outcomes are so improbable, to attribute them to anything other than divine guidance makes no sense. But since divine guidance is "ahistorical," or merely an article of faith, Joan's motives don't matter historically.
+It's a large concession, that, that some events from the life of Saint Joan of Arc have "no rational explanation," but, apparently, this "conscientious historian" must contain herself to "the facts" and stick to sorting them out for description while avoiding explanation, much less inference from those facts. It's historiographically unenlightening and theologically cowardly -- which is the point.
-Pernoud thereby dismisses them altogether, falling back upon,<ref>Pernoud, Regine. Joan of Arc: By Herself and Her Witnesses (p. 388). Scarborough House. Kindle Edition.</ref>
+For Joan, it seems, so it is. As Pernoud admits, if back-handedly, because Joan's motives, actions, and outcomes are so improbable, to attribute them to anything other than divine guidance makes no sense. But since divine guidance is "ahistorical," or merely an article of faith, Joan's motives don't matter historically. Pernoud thereby dismisses them altogether, falling back upon,<ref>Pernoud, Regine. Joan of Arc: By Herself and Her Witnesses (p. 388). Scarborough House. Kindle Edition.</ref>
 <blockquote>The believer can no doubt be satisfied with Joan’s explanation; the unbeliever cannot.</blockquote>
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 <blockquote>Either declare the tree good and its fruit is good, or declare the tree rotten and its fruit is rotten, for a tree is known by its fruit.</blockquote>
-and which the Church employed with Joan explicitly when discerning Joan, following [https://bible.usccb.org/bible/1john/4?1 1 John 4:1]<ref>See also Fraioli, p. 50.</ref>,
+and which the Church at Poitiers on the first examination of Joan on behalf of the French King, employed explicitly when discerning Joan, following [https://bible.usccb.org/bible/1john/4?1 1 John 4:1]<ref>Fraioli uses the King James translation, "Try the spirits if they be of God." (p. 50). The Louis Segond translation reads, "n'ajoutez pas foi à tout esprit; mais éprouvez les esprits" ([https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1%20Jean%204&version=LSG 1 Jean 4:1]).  The English-backed Trial of Condemnation at Rouen quoted Matthew 7:16, "" Ye shall know them by their fruits," in Article LXIII of her accusations.</ref>,
 <blockquote>Beloved, do not trust every spirit but test the spirits to see whether they belong to God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world.</blockquote>