Saint Joan of Arc (Jeanne la Pucelle): Difference between revisions

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Historians have recognized this aspect of Joan's influence upon events, especially in the re-militarization of France under de Richemont after he expelled La Trémoïlle from the French court. Arriving with his soldiers to Jargeau was his first ploy to regain power as Constable of France. By welcoming him, and forcing the general, d'Alençons, to accept his presence, it was Joan who put into place the dynamics that would lead to the reconciliation of Burgundy with France four years after her death. Yet long before the final defeat of the English, it was a key turning point, if not as important as Orléans and the crowning of Charles at Reims, the contingent events that allowed all the rest to happen.     
Historians have recognized this aspect of Joan's influence upon events, especially in the re-militarization of France under de Richemont after he expelled La Trémoïlle from the French court. Arriving with his soldiers to Jargeau was his first ploy to regain power as Constable of France. By welcoming him, and forcing the general, d'Alençons, to accept his presence, it was Joan who put into place the dynamics that would lead to the reconciliation of Burgundy with France four years after her death. Yet long before the final defeat of the English, it was a key turning point, if not as important as Orléans and the crowning of Charles at Reims, the contingent events that allowed all the rest to happen.     


La Trémoïlle and de Richemont's mutual history and animosities were large. Both fought at Agincourt and were captured there by the English. La Trémoïlle was released right away, while de Richemont, who was injured in the battle, was held for five years, after which he joined the English cause, indicating either a conversion or, more likely, a deal. He convinced his brother, the Duke of Brittany, to join the Burgundians in support of the English at the 1420 Treaty of Troyes. The English rewarded de Richemont, but with a title and not a high command, so, frustrated at the sidelining, he returned to the French court, where he brought his brother back into the Armagnac fold in a treaty with Charles VII. De Richemont was married to a daughter of John the Fearless.     
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At the French court, de Richemont worked with La Trémoïlle to oust the top court minister, Pierre de Giac,<ref>See [https://www.britannica.com/biography/Georges-de-La-Tremoille?utm_source=chatgpt.com Georges de La Trémoille | Military Commander, Courtier, Diplomat | Britannica] which states that after kidnapping and drowning Giac, La Trémoïlle married the guy's widow.</ref> but things fell apart in 1427 when La Trémoïlle, having taken over from Giac, turned on de Richemont, in part because of his volatile personality, and part because de Richemont's brother had been forced into signing a truce with the English, which was seen as a betrayal by the French, and thus the the severe animosity against them. In 1433, de Richemont took revenge upon La Trémoïlle, and had him kidnapped and ransomed for money and a pledge to stay out of the French Court. Amidst the oscillating alliances and defections stood John the Fearless, the Duke of Burgundy, who had an informal understanding of mutual support with de Richemont's brother, the Duke of Brittany. Burgundy knew these characters well, and so after Joan's death, the Duke offered de Richemont lands that belonged to La Trémoïlle , in exchange for his loyalty,     
 
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!Date
!Date
!La Trémoïlle
!de Richemont
!de Richemont
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|Early life
|Early life
|Grew up in the Burgundian court under John the Fearless, Duke of Burgundy
|Younger son of the Duke of Brittany, John IV and Joanna of Navarre, who subsequently became Henry IV of England's Queen
|Younger son of the Duke of Brittany, John IV and Joanna of Navarre, who subsequently became Henry IV of England's Queen
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|1410-1414
|1410-1414
|seems to have switched loyalties to Armagnac faction in 1413<ref name=":13" />
|aligns with Armagnac faction during open conflict with Burgundians
|aligns with Armagnac faction during open conflict with Burgundians
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|1415
|1415
|fights for French at Agincourt; captured and soon released
|fights for French at Agincourt; wounded, captured and held for five years<ref name=":12" />
|fights for French at Agincourt; wounded, captured and held for five years<ref name=":12" />
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|1420
|1420
|
|convinces brother, Duke of Brittany to join English side in Treaty of Troyes that recognized the English king as heir to France
|convinces brother, Duke of Brittany to join English side in Treaty of Troyes that recognized the English king as heir to France
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|1422
|1422
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|entitled by English as Duke of Touraine
|entitled by English as Duke of Touraine
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|1424
|1424
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|returns to French Court and made Constable of France
|returns to French Court and made Constable of France
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|1425
|1425
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|brother, the Duke of Brittany sign Treaty of Saumur with Charles VII
|brother, the Duke of Brittany sign Treaty of Saumur with Charles VII
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|1427
|1427
|named Grand-Chamberlain of France by Charles VII
|English raids force Duke of Brittany to enter truce, separating Brittany from France
|English raids force Duke of Brittany to enter truce, separating Brittany from France
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|kicked out of French court by La Trémoïlle
|kicked out of French court by La Trémoïlle
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|1429
|1429
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|in June brings army to join Joan of Arc, and fights with the French at Battle of Patay
|in June brings army to join Joan of Arc, and fights with the French at Battle of Patay
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|1432
|1432
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|March, Treaty of Rennes signed between Charles VII and Duke of Brittany, enhancing de Richemont's status with French court  
|March, Treaty of Rennes signed between Charles VII and Duke of Brittany, enhancing de Richemont's status with French court  
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|1433
|1433
|removed from French court by de Richemont
|overthrows La Trémoïlle
|overthrows La Trémoïlle
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|1435
|1435
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|helps negotiate Trety of Arras which re-aligns Burgundy to the French
|helps negotiate Trety of Arras which re-aligns Burgundy to the French
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|1444
|1444
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|heads reorganization of the French army on professional terms
|heads reorganization of the French army on professional terms
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|1450
|1450
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|Command French victory at Battle of Formigny, in Normandy, and lays seige on Caen
|Command French victory at Battle of Formigny, in Normandy, and lays seige on Caen
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La Trémoïlle and de Richemont's mutual history and animosities were large. Both fought at Agincourt and were captured there by the English. La Trémoïlle was released right away, while de Richemont, who was injured in the battle, was held for five years, after which he joined the English cause, indicating either a conversion or, more likely, a deal. He convinced his brother, the Duke of Brittany, to join the Burgundians in support of the English at the 1420 Treaty of Troyes. The English rewarded de Richemont, but with a title and not a high command, so, frustrated at the sidelining, he returned to the French court, where he brought his brother back into the Armagnac fold in a treaty with Charles VII. De Richemont was married to a daughter of John the Fearless.     
At the French court, de Richemont worked with La Trémoïlle to oust the top court minister, Pierre de Giac,<ref>See [https://www.britannica.com/biography/Georges-de-La-Tremoille?utm_source=chatgpt.com Georges de La Trémoille | Military Commander, Courtier, Diplomat | Britannica] which states that after kidnapping and drowning Giac, La Trémoïlle married the guy's widow.</ref> but things fell apart in 1427 when La Trémoïlle, having taken over from Giac, turned on de Richemont, in part because of his volatile personality, and part because de Richemont's brother had been forced into signing a truce with the English, which was seen as a betrayal by the French, and thus the the severe animosity against them. In 1433, de Richemont took revenge upon La Trémoïlle, and had him kidnapped and ransomed for money and a pledge to stay out of the French Court. Amidst the oscillating alliances and defections stood John the Fearless, the Duke of Burgundy, who had an informal understanding of mutual support with de Richemont's brother, the Duke of Brittany. Burgundy knew these characters well, and so after Joan's death, the Duke offered de Richemont lands that belonged to La Trémoïlle , in exchange for his loyalty,     
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<blockquote>No, I went at the request of the gentlemen who wished to make an attack or assault-at-arms; I intended to go there and break through the trenches.</blockquote><blockquote>Had you any revelation to attack La Charité?</blockquote><blockquote>No, I went there at the request of the men-at-arms, as I said elsewhere.</blockquote><blockquote>Did you have any revelation to go to Pont l'Evêque?</blockquote><blockquote>After I had had, in the trenches of Melun, revelation that I should be taken, I consulted more often with the Captains of the army ; but I did not tell them I had had any revelation that I should be taken.</blockquote><blockquote>Was it well to attack the town of Paris on the day of the Festival of the Nativity of Our Lady?</blockquote><blockquote>It is well done to observe the Festival of the Blessed Mary, and on my conscience it seems to me that it was, and ever will be, well to observe these festivals, from one end to the other.</blockquote><blockquote>Did you not say before Paris, "Surrender this town by order of Jesus?"</blockquote><blockquote>'* No, but I said, ' Surrender it to the King of France.' "</blockquote>
<blockquote>No, I went at the request of the gentlemen who wished to make an attack or assault-at-arms; I intended to go there and break through the trenches.</blockquote><blockquote>Had you any revelation to attack La Charité?</blockquote><blockquote>No, I went there at the request of the men-at-arms, as I said elsewhere.</blockquote><blockquote>Did you have any revelation to go to Pont l'Evêque?</blockquote><blockquote>After I had had, in the trenches of Melun, revelation that I should be taken, I consulted more often with the Captains of the army ; but I did not tell them I had had any revelation that I should be taken.</blockquote><blockquote>Was it well to attack the town of Paris on the day of the Festival of the Nativity of Our Lady?</blockquote><blockquote>It is well done to observe the Festival of the Blessed Mary, and on my conscience it seems to me that it was, and ever will be, well to observe these festivals, from one end to the other.</blockquote><blockquote>Did you not say before Paris, "Surrender this town by order of Jesus?"</blockquote><blockquote>'* No, but I said, ' Surrender it to the King of France.' "</blockquote>


== Saint or Servant of France? ==
== Saint or Servant of France? ==