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The haste, then, was perhaps that of inaction, which surrendered the immediate opportunity for the larger, more glorious crown.<ref>>> Pernoud here on Charles' equivocations</ref> | The haste, then, was perhaps that of inaction, which surrendered the immediate opportunity for the larger, more glorious crown.<ref>>> Pernoud here on Charles' equivocations</ref> | ||
== Road to Rouen == | == Road to Rouen == | ||
[[File:Karte_Haus_Burgund_4_EN.png|thumb|<small>Burgundian possessions under the rule of Duke Charles the Bold, 1465–1477 (Wikipedia). Go [[commons:File:Duchy_of_Burgundy_(918-1477).gif#/media/File:Duchy_of_Burgundy_(918-1477).gif|here for an animated map]] showing the growth of the Burgundian state. Note the dotted-line that marks the border between France and the Holy Roman Empire, which the Duchy strides. The death of Philip the Good at the 1477 Battle of Nancy against the Swiss Federation allowed the French King Louis XI (son of Charles VIII) to absorb the French portion of the Duchy, thus ending the "Valois House of Burgundy" started in 1363 by Philip the Bold, the brother of the French King Charles V (grandfather of Charles VII).</small> ]] | [[File:Karte_Haus_Burgund_4_EN.png|thumb|<small>Burgundian possessions under the rule of Duke Charles the Bold, 1465–1477 (Wikipedia). Go [[commons:File:Duchy_of_Burgundy_(918-1477).gif#/media/File:Duchy_of_Burgundy_(918-1477).gif|here for an animated map]] showing the growth of the Burgundian state. Note the dotted-line that marks the border between France and the Holy Roman Empire, which the Duchy strides. The death of Philip the Good at the 1477 Battle of Nancy against the Swiss Federation allowed the French King Louis XI (son of Charles VIII) to absorb the French portion of the Duchy, thus ending the "Valois House of Burgundy" started in 1363 by Philip the Bold, the brother of the French King Charles V (grandfather of Charles VII).</small>]] | ||
Even as Joan led the French army and its King towards Reims for the sacramental coronation of Charles VII, the French minister Georges de La Trémoïlle commenced negotiations with the Burgundian court. The talks advanced enough so that the day after the coronation a formal, fifteen day truce was begun.<ref>See Pernoud, Her Story, p. 72</ref> | Even as Joan led the French army and its King towards Reims for the sacramental coronation of Charles VII, the French minister Georges de La Trémoïlle commenced negotiations with the Burgundian court. The talks advanced enough so that the day after the coronation a formal, fifteen day truce was begun.<ref>See Pernoud, Her Story, p. 72</ref> | ||
France was Charles' for the taking, especially Paris, but now, not later. Instead, the newly crowned | France was Charles VII's for the taking, especially Paris, but now, not later. Instead, the newly crowned King preferred the adulation of the people along a slow march towards but not into Paris -- which means he did not want to take Paris. Charles and his ministers had ceded authority over the war to their enemies. | ||
How do we even make sense of this? The English were reeling from Joan's onslaught, and as the French army marched triumphantly to and from the sacred coronation of the French King, the Burgundians faced the logic of an English alliance that was losing its authority among the people. And the French minister proposes Burgundian neutrality? It's hard to see to what advantage de La Trémoïlle was leveraging, much less what was the actual situation being leveraged. | How do we even make sense of this? The English were reeling from Joan's onslaught, and as the French army marched triumphantly to and from the sacred coronation of the French King, the Burgundians faced the logic of an English alliance that was losing its authority among the people. And the French minister proposes Burgundian neutrality? It's hard to see to what advantage de La Trémoïlle was leveraging, much less what was the actual situation being leveraged. | ||
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Joan, the chronicler reported, was angry at de Richemont's exclusion. She also wanted the Burgundian Philip the Good himself at the coronation, reminding the Duke in her letter sent the day of the coronation,<ref>Letter of Joan of Arc to the Duke of Burgundy, July 17, 1431 (translation from Pernoud, Her Story, p. 68)</ref> | Joan, the chronicler reported, was angry at de Richemont's exclusion. She also wanted the Burgundian Philip the Good himself at the coronation, reminding the Duke in her letter sent the day of the coronation,<ref>Letter of Joan of Arc to the Duke of Burgundy, July 17, 1431 (translation from Pernoud, Her Story, p. 68)</ref> | ||
<blockquote>And it is | <blockquote>And it is three weeks since I wrote that you should be at the anointing of the king, which today, Sunday the seventeenth day of this month of July, is taking place in the city of Reims: to which I have had no reply, nor have I ever heard any news of that herald.</blockquote> | ||
Joan didn't care about palace back stories and generational resentments. She just wanted to win the war. | Joan didn't care about palace back stories and generational resentments. She just wanted to win the war. | ||
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During a lull in the lulls, and at Joan's insistence -- indicative of the authority she yet held -- the Duke of Alençon was finally allowed to organize an attack on Paris, coming on September 8, the Feast of the Nativity of the Mother of God. Joan was at the front. After an all-day assault that induced both panic and expectant enthusiasm within the city, as sundown fell and after she "reached the walls of Paris,<ref>Testimony of Louis de Contes, Murray p. 259. Historians like to point to witnesses that Joan was in a ditch when she was shot, unable to get over a ditch or a moat. For example, see Barker writes of a description of the event, "The citizen of Paris, who was probably a priest, gave a graphic description in his journal of this ‘creature in the form of a woman, whom they called the Maid – what it was, God only knows’ standing on the edge of the moat with her standard. ‘Surrender to us quickly, in Jesus’ name!’ she shouted to the Parisians: ‘if you don’t surrender before nightfall we shall come in by force whether you like it or not and you will all be killed.’ ‘Shall we, you bloody tart?’ a crossbowman responded and shot her through the leg. Another crossbowman shot her standard-bearer through the foot and, when he lifted his visor so that he could see to take the bolt out, he was shot between the eyes and killed. (Barker, Juliet. Conquest, Kindle Edition) Barker uses this quotation without Joan's own answer to it. During the Rouen Trial, she was asked, "Did you not say before Paris, 'Surrender this town by order of Jesus'?" to which she clarified, "No, but I said, 'Surrender it to the King of France.'" (Murray, p. 73)</ref>" as her page testified, Joan was struck in the thigh by a crossbow bolt.<ref>There is much to be said for Divine protection of Joan in her injuries, here at Paris and at Orléans. While missing vital organs, Joan's wounds were serious and susceptible to infection, etc. She recovered from them all. </ref> Joan told the Rouen court,<ref>Murray, p. 14</ref><blockquote> | During a lull in the lulls, and at Joan's insistence -- indicative of the authority she yet held -- the Duke of Alençon was finally allowed to organize an attack on Paris, coming on September 8, the Feast of the Nativity of the Mother of God. Joan was at the front. After an all-day assault that induced both panic and expectant enthusiasm within the city, as sundown fell and after she "reached the walls of Paris,<ref>Testimony of Louis de Contes, Murray p. 259. Historians like to point to witnesses that Joan was in a ditch when she was shot, unable to get over a ditch or a moat. For example, see Barker writes of a description of the event, "The citizen of Paris, who was probably a priest, gave a graphic description in his journal of this ‘creature in the form of a woman, whom they called the Maid – what it was, God only knows’ standing on the edge of the moat with her standard. ‘Surrender to us quickly, in Jesus’ name!’ she shouted to the Parisians: ‘if you don’t surrender before nightfall we shall come in by force whether you like it or not and you will all be killed.’ ‘Shall we, you bloody tart?’ a crossbowman responded and shot her through the leg. Another crossbowman shot her standard-bearer through the foot and, when he lifted his visor so that he could see to take the bolt out, he was shot between the eyes and killed. (Barker, Juliet. Conquest, Kindle Edition) Barker uses this quotation without Joan's own answer to it. During the Rouen Trial, she was asked, "Did you not say before Paris, 'Surrender this town by order of Jesus'?" to which she clarified, "No, but I said, 'Surrender it to the King of France.'" (Murray, p. 73)</ref>" as her page testified, Joan was struck in the thigh by a crossbow bolt.<ref>There is much to be said for Divine protection of Joan in her injuries, here at Paris and at Orléans. While missing vital organs, Joan's wounds were serious and susceptible to infection, etc. She recovered from them all. </ref> Joan told the Rouen court,<ref>Murray, p. 14</ref><blockquote> | ||
I was wounded in the trenches before Paris, but I was cured in five days. It is true that I caused an assault to be made before Paris.</blockquote>We find greater details from a witness who was amazed by it all:<ref>Jornal of Cagny, per Pernoud, Her Story, p. 77.</ref> <blockquote>The Maid took her standard in hand and with the first troops entered the ditches toward the swine market. The assault was hard and long, and it was wondrous to hear the noise and the explosion of the cannons and the culverines that those inside the city fired against those outside, and all manner of blows in such great abundance that they were beyond being counted. The assault lasted from about the hour of midday until about the hour of nightfall. After the sun had set, the Maid was hit by a crossbow bolt in her thigh. After she had been hit, she insisted even more strenuously that everyone should approach the walls so that the place would be taken; but because it was night and she was wounded and the men-at-arms were weary from the day-long assault, the lord of Gaucourt and others came to the Maid and against her will carried her out of the ditch, and so the assault ended. </blockquote>Must have seemed like another Orlėans or Jargeau -- ''the Maid is down! the Maid returns to the attack!'' As we see, it was in Joan's mind, as she went looking for d'Alençon to resume the attack. But that night the King halted the campaign, and ordered a retreat back to the Loire, which meant back to where it all started, Orléans. | I was wounded in the trenches before Paris, but I was cured in five days. It is true that I caused an assault to be made before Paris.</blockquote> | ||
We find greater details from a witness who was amazed by it all:<ref>Jornal of Cagny, per Pernoud, Her Story, p. 77.</ref> | |||
<blockquote>The Maid took her standard in hand and with the first troops entered the ditches toward the swine market. The assault was hard and long, and it was wondrous to hear the noise and the explosion of the cannons and the culverines that those inside the city fired against those outside, and all manner of blows in such great abundance that they were beyond being counted. The assault lasted from about the hour of midday until about the hour of nightfall. After the sun had set, the Maid was hit by a crossbow bolt in her thigh. After she had been hit, she insisted even more strenuously that everyone should approach the walls so that the place would be taken; but because it was night and she was wounded and the men-at-arms were weary from the day-long assault, the lord of Gaucourt and others came to the Maid and against her will carried her out of the ditch, and so the assault ended. </blockquote>Must have seemed like another Orlėans or Jargeau -- ''the Maid is down! the Maid returns to the attack!'' As we see, it was in Joan's mind, as she went looking for d'Alençon to resume the attack. But that night the King halted the campaign, and ordered a retreat back to the Loire, which meant back to where it all started, Orléans. | |||
Joan was certain about taking Paris. She had warned the English King and his regent, Bedford, in her "[[Joan of Arc letter to the English|Letter to the English]], | Joan was certain about taking Paris. She had warned the English King and his regent, Bedford, in her "[[Joan of Arc letter to the English|Letter to the English]], | ||
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<blockquote>After we had arrived at Selles, I went to her lodging to see her, and she called for wine for me and said she would soon have me drink it in Paris.</blockquote> | <blockquote>After we had arrived at Selles, I went to her lodging to see her, and she called for wine for me and said she would soon have me drink it in Paris.</blockquote> | ||
Yet, Joan never seems to have claimed with certainty that she herself would be in Paris. The King would, absolutely, but for her, as with the young lord who would drink the wine in Paris, she might or might not be there, too. At Rouen, she answered questions about the Count d'Armagnac who wrote to Joan regarding the papal divisions:<ref>Murray, p. 34</ref><blockquote>I replied, among other things, that when I should be at rest, in Paris or elsewhere, I would give him an answer.</blockquote>In in that letter, dated, August 22, 1429,<ref>Murray, p. 35</ref> | Yet, Joan never seems to have claimed with certainty that she herself would be in Paris. The King would, absolutely, but for her, as with the young lord who would drink the wine in Paris, she might or might not be there, too. At Rouen, she answered questions about the Count d'Armagnac who wrote to Joan regarding the papal divisions:<ref>Murray, p. 34</ref> | ||
<blockquote>I replied, among other things, that when I should be at rest, in Paris or elsewhere, I would give him an answer.</blockquote> | |||
In in that letter, dated, August 22, 1429,<ref>Murray, p. 35</ref> | |||
<blockquote>This thing I cannot tell you truly at present, until I am at rest in Paris or elsewhere ; for I am now too much hindered by affairs of war; '''but when you hear that I am in Paris''', send a message to me and I will inform you in truth whom you should believe, and what I shall know by the counsel of my Righteous and Sovereign Lord, the King of all the World, and of what you should do to the extent of my power.</blockquote> | <blockquote>This thing I cannot tell you truly at present, until I am at rest in Paris or elsewhere ; for I am now too much hindered by affairs of war; '''but when you hear that I am in Paris''', send a message to me and I will inform you in truth whom you should believe, and what I shall know by the counsel of my Righteous and Sovereign Lord, the King of all the World, and of what you should do to the extent of my power.</blockquote> | ||
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<blockquote>When you came before Paris, had you revelations from your Voices to go there?</blockquote> | <blockquote>When you came before Paris, had you revelations from your Voices to go there?</blockquote> | ||
<blockquote>No, I went at the request of the gentlemen who wished to make an attack or assault-at-arms; I intended to go there and break through the trenches.</blockquote>Paris would come to the French, as she predicted, but not with Joan herself entering the gates. | <blockquote>No, I went at the request of the gentlemen who wished to make an attack or assault-at-arms; I intended to go there and break through the trenches.</blockquote> | ||
Paris would come to the French, as she predicted, but not with Joan herself entering the gates. | |||
Before leaving St. Denis, where Charles VII had resided during the Paris campaign, Joan presented her complete set of white armor and a seized sword to the altar at the church of Saint Denis, a traditional act of thanks giving by a wounded soldier.<ref>See [https://ia800200.us.archive.org/6/items/joanofarc00moon/joanofarc00moon.pdf Joan of Arc] p. 49</ref> After the King left Saint Denis to the English, they took Joan's armor and likely destroyed it. From there, the usual story is the the King abandoned Joan, while allowing her limited, unsupported military campaigns, which is true. For her part, Joan "feared nothing but treason."<ref>See Joan: Her Story p. 78</ref> | Before leaving St. Denis, where Charles VII had resided during the Paris campaign, Joan presented her complete set of white armor and a seized sword to the altar at the church of Saint Denis, a traditional act of thanks giving by a wounded soldier.<ref>See [https://ia800200.us.archive.org/6/items/joanofarc00moon/joanofarc00moon.pdf Joan of Arc] p. 49</ref> After the King left Saint Denis to the English, they took Joan's armor and likely destroyed it. From there, the usual story is the the King abandoned Joan, while allowing her limited, unsupported military campaigns, which is true. For her part, Joan "feared nothing but treason."<ref>See Joan: Her Story p. 78</ref> | ||
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The French Court ordered her to attack another town in the region, La Charité, which was also fortified, but she was denied additional artillery or funds. Joan was forced to raise her own army for the attack, which was unsuccessful, her first defeat after Paris. It gave the Court further excuse to ignore her and to adhere to the supposed truce with the Duke of Burgundy. Joan's next action was to move north to defend areas that Burgundy had attacked, despite the truce. That Joan knew it was going on means the Court knew it, but the Court deliberately ignored it under the guise of the truce. Whether or not Joan acted with the Court's authority, over which historians have argued uselessly, doesn't matter: they knew, she knew, they all knew the Duke of Burgundy was in violation of the truce. That Joan acted on her own authority or the Kings doesn't matter. What matters is that she went to defend Compiègne, which was under Burgundian and English attack, with few resources and a small force. There Joan was captured, but, as always, standing fast amidst battle, only this time there was no rallying the troops, as they had gone into the city and the gate was closed on her as the Burgundians surrounded her and pulled her from her horse. | The French Court ordered her to attack another town in the region, La Charité, which was also fortified, but she was denied additional artillery or funds. Joan was forced to raise her own army for the attack, which was unsuccessful, her first defeat after Paris. It gave the Court further excuse to ignore her and to adhere to the supposed truce with the Duke of Burgundy. Joan's next action was to move north to defend areas that Burgundy had attacked, despite the truce. That Joan knew it was going on means the Court knew it, but the Court deliberately ignored it under the guise of the truce. Whether or not Joan acted with the Court's authority, over which historians have argued uselessly, doesn't matter: they knew, she knew, they all knew the Duke of Burgundy was in violation of the truce. That Joan acted on her own authority or the Kings doesn't matter. What matters is that she went to defend Compiègne, which was under Burgundian and English attack, with few resources and a small force. There Joan was captured, but, as always, standing fast amidst battle, only this time there was no rallying the troops, as they had gone into the city and the gate was closed on her as the Burgundians surrounded her and pulled her from her horse. | ||
La Charité became a matter of great attention at the Rouen trial. Questions on it included, | La Charité became a matter of great attention at the Rouen trial. Questions on it included, | ||
<blockquote>Did you never speak with the said Catherine<ref>As discussed earlier, the examiners were most keen to associate Joan with Catherine de la Rochelle and her visions of a "lady in white." (see Murray, p. 52)</ref> on the project of going to La Charité-sur-Loire?<ref>March 3 (Murray, p. 53)</ref></blockquote> | |||
<blockquote>What did you do in the trenches of La Charité?<ref>ibid</ref></blockquote> | |||
<blockquote>Why did you not enter La Charité, if you had command from God to do so?<ref>March 3 (Murray, p. 54)</ref></blockquote> | |||
<blockquote>Had you any revelation to attack La Charité?<ref>March 13 (Murray, p. 69)</ref></blockquote> | |||
<blockquote>Did you do well or ill to advance on La Charité?<ref>March 27 (Murray, p. 352)</ref> </blockquote> | |||
The point was that Joan had failed to take the city, and, as with her failed assault on Paris, she was thereby a false prophet. Article LVII of the Seventy Articles of accusation attacked her on this point:<ref>March 27 (Murray p. 360-361)</ref> | |||
<blockquote>The day of the Nativity of the Blessed Virgin, Jeanne did assemble the whole army of Charles, to make an attack on the city of Paris ; she did lead the army against the city, affirming that she would enter it on that day — that she knew it by revelation: she directed all the arrangements possible for the entry. And, nevertheless, she is not afraid to deny it before us here in court. And at other places also, at La Charité-sur-Loire, for example, at Pont L'Evêque, at Compiègne, when she attacked the army of the Duke of Burgundy, she affirmed and foretold that which, according to her, would take place, saying that she knew it by revelation : now, not only did the things predicted by her not come to pass, but the very contrary happened. Before you she hath denied having made these predictions, because they were not realized, as she had said; but many people worthy of trust report to have heard her utter them. At the time of the assault on Paris, she said that thousands of angels were around her, ready to bear her to Paradise if she should be killed: now, when she was asked why, after the promises made to her, not only did she not enter Paris but that many of her men and she herself had been wounded in a horrible manner and some even killed, she answered "It was Jesus, who broke His word to me.</blockquote> | |||
<blockquote>What have you to say to this Article</blockquote> | |||
<blockquote>As to the beginning, I have answered it already. If I think of more later, I will willingly answer then. I never said that Jesus had failed me.</blockquote> | |||
The operations against Charité, Paris, and others such as Compiegne, where Joan was captured by the Burgundians, were unsuccessful. Joan assured fellow commanders about various actions, such as at Saint Pierre le Moustier, which she took prior to her assault on Charité. Of the former city, she told her steward, Jean d'Aulen,<ref name=":9" /> | |||
<blockquote>she would not leave until she had taken the town.</blockquote> | |||
She did, but she subsequently failed to take Charité, which, d'Aulen, said, was from lack of support from the crown:<ref name=":10" /><blockquote> | |||
Moreover, that, some time after the return from the consecration of the King, he [the King] was advised by his Council — then at Mehun-sur-Yèvre — that it was most necessary to recover the town of La Charité, which was held by the enemy; but that first must be taken the town of Saint Pierre le Moustier, which likewise was held by the enemy;</blockquote> | |||
Joan admitted the failure to the Rouen court: | |||
<blockquote>At the request of the men-at-arms, there was an assault made before Paris, and, at the request of the King himself, one also before La Charité. These were neither against nor by the order of my Voices.<ref name=":11" /></blockquote> | |||
>> here | |||
The deception of the examiners shows here, as Joan's assault on Paris preceded the others. In the truce agreed upon just after the July 17 coronation, the Duke of Burgundy agreed to surrender Paris to Armagnac control. He lied, of course, so Charles had to make a show of force. But that's all he wanted. | The deception of the examiners shows here, as Joan's assault on Paris preceded the others. In the truce agreed upon just after the July 17 coronation, the Duke of Burgundy agreed to surrender Paris to Armagnac control. He lied, of course, so Charles had to make a show of force. But that's all he wanted. | ||
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As to Joan's<ref>March 13, (Murray p. 74-75)</ref> | As to Joan's<ref>March 13, (Murray p. 74-75)</ref> | ||
<blockquote>No, I went at the request of the gentlemen who wished to make an attack or assault-at-arms; I intended to go there and break through the trenches.</blockquote><blockquote>Had you any revelation to attack La Charité?</blockquote> | <blockquote>No, I went at the request of the gentlemen who wished to make an attack or assault-at-arms; I intended to go there and break through the trenches.</blockquote> | ||
<blockquote>Had you any revelation to attack La Charité?</blockquote> | |||
<blockquote>No, I went there at the request of the men-at-arms, as I said elsewhere.</blockquote> | |||
<blockquote>Did you have any revelation to go to Pont l'Evêque?</blockquote> | |||
<blockquote>After I had had, in the trenches of Melun, revelation that I should be taken, I consulted more often with the Captains of the army ; but I did not tell them I had had any revelation that I should be taken.</blockquote> | <blockquote>After I had had, in the trenches of Melun, revelation that I should be taken, I consulted more often with the Captains of the army ; but I did not tell them I had had any revelation that I should be taken.</blockquote> | ||
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<blockquote>Was it well to attack the town of Paris on the day of the Festival of the Nativity of Our Lady?</blockquote> | <blockquote>Was it well to attack the town of Paris on the day of the Festival of the Nativity of Our Lady?</blockquote> | ||
<blockquote>It is well done to observe the Festival of the Blessed Mary, and on my conscience it seems to me that it was, and ever will be, well to observe these festivals, from one end to the other.</blockquote><blockquote>Did you not say before Paris, "Surrender this town by order of Jesus?"</blockquote> | <blockquote>It is well done to observe the Festival of the Blessed Mary, and on my conscience it seems to me that it was, and ever will be, well to observe these festivals, from one end to the other.</blockquote> | ||
<blockquote>Did you not say before Paris, "Surrender this town by order of Jesus?"</blockquote> | |||
<blockquote>'* No, but I said, 'Surrender it to the King of France.'"</blockquote> | |||
Ultimately, there's no need to bother with the whys and hows of Joan's betrayal. God allowed it, and the Saints Margaret and Catherine told her it was coming <<quote >> here | |||
What matters is that for whatever means, under whatever influence or motive, Charles VII never received the angelic crown Joan had prophesized. He rushed into agreements and truces of no substance, prolonging the war and abandoning Joan to her martyrdom. But what Joan had launched was unstoppable. | What matters is that for whatever means, under whatever influence or motive, Charles VII never received the angelic crown Joan had prophesized. He rushed into agreements and truces of no substance, prolonging the war and abandoning Joan to her martyrdom. But what Joan had launched was unstoppable. |