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== Joan and the Saints ==

The standard modern histories go with Joan's testimony and experiences about her Voices without affirming, or, ~~usually~~, denying, their reality. Joan ~~instead~~ resoundingly affirmed them:<ref>Murray, p. 357</ref><blockquote>As firmly as I believe Our Saviour Jesus Christ suffered death to redeem us from the pains of hell, so firmly do I believe that it was Saint Michael and Saint Gabriel, Saint Catherine and Saint Margaret whom Our Saviour sent to comfort and to counsel me.</blockquote>

The standard modern histories go with Joan's testimony and experiences about her Voices without affirming, or, often, denying, their reality. Joan resoundingly affirmed them:<ref>Murray, p. 357</ref><blockquote>As firmly as I believe Our Saviour Jesus Christ suffered death to redeem us from the pains of hell, so firmly do I believe that it was Saint Michael and Saint Gabriel, Saint Catherine and Saint Margaret whom Our Saviour sent to comfort and to counsel me.</blockquote>

[[File:Domrémy-la-Pucelle (88) Basilique du Bois Chenu - Jeanne d'Arc écoutant les voix - 01b.jpg|center|thumb|835x835px|<small>Joan and her Voices, outside the Basilica of Saint Joan of Arc, Domrémy-la-Pucelle (Wikipedia FR). Click [https://saintjoandarc.org/w/images/a/a6/Domr%C3%A9my-la-Pucelle_%2888%29_Basilique_du_Bois_Chenu_-_Jeanne_d%27Arc_%C3%A9coutant_les_voix_-_02_medium.jpg here] and [https://saintjoandarc.org/w/images/thumb/a/ac/Domr%C3%A9my-la-Pucelle_%2888%29_Basilique_du_Bois_Chenu_-_Jeanne_d%27Arc_%C3%A9coutant_les_voix_-_01b.jpg/1592px-Domr%C3%A9my-la-Pucelle_%2888%29_Basilique_du_Bois_Chenu_-_Jeanne_d%27Arc_%C3%A9coutant_les_voix_-_01b.jpg here] for larger views of this beautiful monument.</small>]]

For the Rouen court, Joan was not your average witch. They not did her visions and prophecies confound, they had to face the problem of their effects.

Her visions drove the Rouen trial court crazy, and they spent much time challenging and arguing with her about her encounters with the Saints. She answered everything plainly, which, again, drove them crazy. For a believer, what an an incredible opportunity to learn about the Saints! If we listen to her, Joan gives us a unique view into the experiences of an actual mystic.

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 == Joan and the Saints ==
-The standard modern histories go with Joan's testimony and experiences about her Voices without affirming, or, usually, denying, their reality. Joan instead resoundingly affirmed them:<ref>Murray, p. 357</ref><blockquote>As firmly as I believe Our Saviour Jesus Christ suffered death to redeem us from the pains of hell, so firmly do I believe that it was Saint Michael and Saint Gabriel, Saint Catherine and Saint Margaret whom Our Saviour sent to comfort and to counsel me.</blockquote>
+The standard modern histories go with Joan's testimony and experiences about her Voices without affirming, or, often, denying, their reality. Joan resoundingly affirmed them:<ref>Murray, p. 357</ref><blockquote>As firmly as I believe Our Saviour Jesus Christ suffered death to redeem us from the pains of hell, so firmly do I believe that it was Saint Michael and Saint Gabriel, Saint Catherine and Saint Margaret whom Our Saviour sent to comfort and to counsel me.</blockquote>
 [[File:Domrémy-la-Pucelle (88) Basilique du Bois Chenu - Jeanne d'Arc écoutant les voix - 01b.jpg|center|thumb|835x835px|<small>Joan and her Voices, outside the Basilica of Saint Joan of Arc, Domrémy-la-Pucelle (Wikipedia FR). Click [https://saintjoandarc.org/w/images/a/a6/Domr%C3%A9my-la-Pucelle_%2888%29_Basilique_du_Bois_Chenu_-_Jeanne_d%27Arc_%C3%A9coutant_les_voix_-_02_medium.jpg here] and [https://saintjoandarc.org/w/images/thumb/a/ac/Domr%C3%A9my-la-Pucelle_%2888%29_Basilique_du_Bois_Chenu_-_Jeanne_d%27Arc_%C3%A9coutant_les_voix_-_01b.jpg/1592px-Domr%C3%A9my-la-Pucelle_%2888%29_Basilique_du_Bois_Chenu_-_Jeanne_d%27Arc_%C3%A9coutant_les_voix_-_01b.jpg here] for larger views of this beautiful monument.</small>]]
+For the Rouen court, Joan was not your average witch. They not did her visions and prophecies confound, they had to face the problem of their effects.
 Her visions drove the Rouen trial court crazy, and they spent much time challenging and arguing with her about her encounters with the Saints. She answered everything plainly, which, again, drove them crazy. For a believer, what an an incredible opportunity to learn about the Saints! If we listen to her, Joan gives us a unique view into the experiences of an actual mystic.